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i you read this, shooting will have just begun on Series VI of Red Dwarf down at Sbepperton 
Studios. The latest we've heard ii Hut the new series should air late April/early May, but we'll 
keep von posted on our regular NEWS FROM THE DWARF page. In the meantime, the Smesaiine 
it the p lace to cone for all the hut stories and featires from the world of Red Dwarf. 

This issue we bring nob earl one of a major interview with ROBERT tKRYTEN) 
LLEWELLYN; go on location with Grant Naylor'i new sit-com pilot, THE 10%ERS; and join the 
audience for one of HAITI E HAYRIDGE'S stand-up routines Oar gruesome lead atrip has Lister 
taking on the SPACE MONKEYS; JAKE BULLET'S search for the killer of eameshow contestant 
Philby Frutch continues; and the Polymorph start in hit own atrip, THE SHADOW TIME, a story 
set oe tee Ice World/Garbage World (seen in the Series Ml episode, 'Marooned', and the second 
novel, 'Better Than Life') long before the Red Dwarf crew tore up there. 

So, what are you waiting for? Torn the page now aod start reading all this stiff - we 
didn't pot it all together for oer health, you know. To quote Litter from 'Quarantine'; "We're 
here to entertain ya!" 



THE JUNIOR ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SPACE 



Here it is again - Ma nine Lehmann's Question 
& Answer column, promoted to page 2 by pop- 
ular demand. Or rather, because there are 
plenty more of your questions to be answered 
and we want to leave room for other letters 
on our letters page. But enough of the small 
talk - on with the questions... 

CAN I HAVE A SIGNED PHOTG OF ALL 

THE CAST? 

(various questioners) 

No. because we haven't got any We might 
pass on your request to Grant Naytor 
Productions (or the actor concerned) if you 
ask us nicely, but we can make no promises 
And please note that you probably stand no 
chance at all if you neglect tc enclose a large 
SAE with your request And while we're on 
the subject, a lot of people have asked us to 
repeat the first (or other) series of Red 
Dwarf, or at least to bring out the videos. 
Obviously we can't do this ourselves (we're 
just the magazine!) ■ so make sure you let the 
BBC know your views as well. 

ARE THERE ANY PLANS TO PUBLISH 

THE RED DWARF SCRIPTS IN BOOK 

FORM? 

(Alex Bond, William Ganniclifft, 

Kathleen Boyce) 

Not as yet, but this may change. After all, 

Penguin have already reproduced the first 

draft script of episode 1 in their Red Dwarf 

Omnibus, so that might set them thinking. . . 

WHAT YEAR IS RED DWARF SET IN? 
(Adam Dauies) 

Someone had to ask! ft really is impossible to 
say for sure. A calendar seen in 'Stasis Leak' 
I when the crew ere able to appear back in 
time, before the accident) tells us it was 
2077. but by Series IV Lister is claiming to 
be an 'enlightened 23rd Century guy'. The 



first Red Dwarf novel meanwhile gives the 
year as 21B0 and this is the year we tend to 
accept at the Smegaztne It may be worth 
remembering that the stones are actually set 
over 3 million years in the future, so the odd 
century here or there 
doesn't really seem that significant. And 
don't forget, Kryten belongs to another centu- 
ry altogether, probably the 24th or 25th 

WASN'T CRAIG CHARLES IN A SIT-COM 
CALLED HELP'? 
(Nicholas Walker) 

No Perhaps you're thinking of Jake 
Abrahams Jake has also appeared in Red 
Dwarf as the alternate Dave Lister (our 
Lister's sperm -in- law) in The Inquisitor' and 
as a stunt double in 'Demons And Angels' 

WHY WAS RIMMER BROUGHT BACK 
BY HOLLY? 

(Ted Cowvgill, Amu Kingman, Adam 
Dauies) 

Basically to keep Lister sane Holly makes 
this claim on screen, although in the book it is 
revealed that he is lying 1 Even so. it seems 
he may have been right - as Lister admits in 
'Kryten'. 'Driving Rimmer nuts is what keeps 
me going!' And m Justice', Lister claims to 
be the person closest to Rimmer. Of course, 
seeing that Rimmer' s parents hated him and 
that he never actually had any friends, this is 
not saying a great deal. 

If you have a tricky question about Red Dwarf 
that's been bugging you for ages, write to: 
THE JUNIOR ENCYCLOPEDIA OF SPACE, 
c/o Red Dwarf Smegaiine, 
fleetway Editions Limited, 
25-31 Tavistock Place. 
London WC1H0SU. 

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COMPUTER CONUNDRUM 

A repiocemenl odor lo play Red Dwarf's computer Holly, or 
w character lo replace Holly entirely is 'under 
consideration For the new series, according lo production 
company Grant Naylor. It's heen confirmed thai flattie 
Hayiidge will not be appearing in Red Dwarf VI, The 
decision was taken by Giant Naylor who are yel lo reveal 
their reasons. Hatlie is said lo be disappointed at the 
decision. 

DIRECTOR'S DEBUT 

The new Diiector for Red Dwarf VI, Andy DeEmmony, shores 
a common background lo writers Rob Grant and Doog 
Naylor, as he joins Ihe crew of Ihe mining ship from being 
best known for his work on Spitting Image (although they 
dn't work on it ot the same time). Now Andy will be 
colling the shots foe the new series in space. 

SCRIPT SCARCITY, 
LONG-RANGE LOCATIONS 
AND EPISODE ENIGMAS 

Two and a half weeks before cast and crew nip outside lo do 
some odvance filming, and the second script has only just 
been handed in as we go lo press. The Producer of the new 
series (Justin Judd) couldn'l say much about the series with 
only o couple of scripts in, and even details ol the first 
episode are likely lo change once Ihe final versions of the 
other scripts were finished. There will be some on-localion 
filming and it's been hinted this may be o little further- 
afield than in previous years, when the bit of waste ground 
round the coiner fiam Ihe studios generally sufficed. After 
location filming, rehearsals start and the first episode will 
have just been filmed in front of o studio audience as this 
issue of the Smegazine hits Ihe shops. 

10%ERS TRANSMISSION 

Rob Grant and Doug Haylor's other venture into the world 
of sil-com, The ]0%eis gels shown for Ihe first lime around 
ihe time you should be reading this. It's pad of Carlton TV's 
Comedy Playhouse strand being broadcast on ITV. Eight 
individual pilot sitcoms from independent producers make 
up the series and Grant Noyloi's Ihe I0%ers has been 
chosen to launch Comedy Playhouse on February 23rd in 
peak-lime. The programme introduces the antics and ongst 
of a group ol caring and conniving theatrical agents as 
you'll see if you read the location report later in this issue. If 
the show's a hit, il could be commissioned lor a series. 

AWARD ANNOUNCEMENT 

Peter Wrogg and his special effects team have received the 
Design Award from the Royal Television Society fat their 



work on Red Dwarf V. Peter Wragg told the 
Smegazine he is "absolutely delighted" to gel the 
award. He said he had n "wonderful evening" at the 
awards ceremony, which acknowledged some of the 
hard work of Ihe behind-the-scenes people in British 
television, from set designers lo make-up artists. Rob 
Grant and Doug Naylor were also al the a words - 
Pelei said they were "delighted, pleased foi me, 
pleased lo be there and pleased that Ihe programme 
picked up an award". Meanwhile, Peter's effects 
team ore wailing lo find oul what new effects they'll 
be producing far the new series. II could mean 
building another model of the good ship Red Dwarf 
itself (after blowing il up in Red Dworf V's Demons 
and Angels), but this will depend on how much il will 
fealure in series six. Peter says it's currently "all 
honds to the pump" gelling the details together For 
what effects he'll have to Creole this year. 

VENERABLE VIDEOS 

The release dale for the long-awaited first series of 
Red Dwarf on video is March 1st. The six episodes 
will be released on two topes called 'The End' and 
'Waiting for God' at 110.99 each from BBC Video. 

JACKET JAMBOREE 




To accompany their ever -expanding range of T-shirts. 
BMS Moil Order have just begun production on two 
versions of a much-requested Red Dwarf Baseball 
Jacket. They don't come cheap at £60 for the basic 
jacket (above) and £90 foi Ihe lealher-sleeved 
deluxe model (below), but they could soon become 
required wearing lor the really dedicated Red Dwarf 
fan. If you're interested and your credit card is in a 
good maod, the BMS soles hotline is 061-543-4)05. 
VIRGIN VOLUME 




The Red Dwarf Programme Guide, published by Virgin is 
oul this month. Written by Smegazine writers, Chris 
Howorlh and Sieve Lyons, it is "perhaps the first 
reference book you can giggle ovei - definitely not for 
smeg heads"! Il includes chapters on the characters, 
cast, back-stage production people, a detailed episode 
guide and an alphabetical index covering every person, 
every place ond every thing that has appeared in oi hod 
something to do with the series. Il also has eight pages 
of block ond while pictures, including "one very roie 
picture" (whatever that might bel). Described as a 
reference book, but "not a train-s pallet's guide", it's 
released an March 18th at £4.99 in poperbacx. 

CONVENTION CORNER 

Two conventions for Red Dwarf fans look sel la go ahead 
in Ihe middle of this year. Both will doubtless fealuri 
ihe usual round of panel discussions, silly gomes, video 
showings, special guests and Fans getting to meel each 
other. First on the agenda is Trek/Dwarf (also a Stai 
Trek Convention), They hope lo entice some Red Dworf 
guests down to The Holiday Inn in Leicester for the event, 
fresh from the filming of Series VI. Il takes place on the 
weekend 26lh-28th of March 1993, ond costs £30 foi 
attending membership. Contact Trek/Dwarf, 4/ 
Marsham, Orion Goldhoy, Peterborough, Cambridgeshire 
PE2 5RN for details. As with all events, we suggest you 
write off fat deloils before parting with any 
dollarpounds. Secondly, there's Dimension Jump '93 - 
the follow-up to last year's successful Dimension Jump 
'92. It's likely lo lake place in Manchester in July. More 
deioils on this next month 

VIEWERS' VOTES 

Three Red Dwarf cost members are picking up 
respectable viewing Figures far their other programmes. 
(yheizone - ihe virtual reality game show hosted by 
Craig 'Lister' Charles - picked up 3.1 millior 
(quite good far BBC2 in Ihe early evening). Maid Marian 
and Het Meirie Men, featuring Danny 'Cat' John-Jules as 
Barrington was watched by 3.2 million people. And Ihe 
Sriltas Empire, starring Chris 'Rimmer' Barrie was seen 
by 7.4 million people. (Viewing figures courtesy of 
BARB.) 

BRAND-NEW BRITTAS 

Not content with bounding back on oui screens in 
Januory. Gordon Brillas has agreed to make anathet 
senes for the Beeb. Chris Barrie has been signed up for 
yet more adventures within The Brillas Empire which 
should stort filming in the Autumn. Oon'l miss the next 
issue ol the Smegazine when we'll be talking lo Chris 
obou' his career in leisure centre management. 

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PART1 



Despite being a co 

Robert UeweMyn r 

the most popular 

much so that he was 

fated American 

Chris Howarth and 

this and soma of the 



parative newcomer to Red Dwarf, 

i made the android Kryten one of 

wracters on Brtthui televifston. So 

asked to reprise the role for the ill- 

of the show. The Smegaxine's 

Lyons spoke to Robert about 




IE: Firstly, we saw Mac 
MacDonald this morning (tor an upcoming 
interview - he played Captain Hollister) 
and he said to say 'Hi'. 

LLEWELLYN: Oh great 



TS: He also mentioned that you'd been 
working on something together. 

RL: Yes. we did a little sketch tor an 
American show that gets recorded here. He 
played a wild man in a loin cloth and I was 
a sort of psychologist/pillock type character. 
And it son erf worked - he was very good. 

TS: What was the programme? 

RL; Oh God! Thai's a very good question... 
all I know is they haven't paid me yet. Erm, 
I can't remember. 

TS: Are wg likely to see it over here? 

RL: No. It goes out on the cable network 
in America so it's not... well I suppose they 
might show it over here - yes they might 
show it over here. Yes. 

TS: Did you write that particular sketch 
yourself? 

RL: Yeah, it was written especially for it. it 
was only like a three or four minute piece. 
It was sod of an anthropotogicaJ study of this 
phenomena, which is very big in America, 
but people don't really know about it over 



here. I wrote it specifically for the American 

market so the audience over here were a 
bit kind of 'Huh. what?' 

TS: So obviously you performed it in front 
of an audience? 

TL: Yeah it was recorded live in Paramount 
City studios, which is in Soho; it's only little 
and seats about 50 or 60 people. That series 
came from there, Paramount City, with 
Arthur Smith presenting it. 

TS: Were they doing other things there at 
the same time? 

RL: Oh yeah, there were a lot of people - 
stand up comics, bands, things like that. 
We were just one little smidgin of it. 

But I've known Mac for years and years, 
in fact I did my first ever television work with 
him. It was in about 1980, I think, in some 
weird programme for Channel 4 - it was 
recorded before the channel started. 

TS: What was that? 

RL: Bookem and Riskit. It was a pretty 
appalling experience. It was the first time I'd 
done any telly and it was a bit of a shock 
- very different to Red Dwarf and very 
different to anything else I've done since. But 
it did get broadcast - once - I think it was 
on the third day Channel 4 went out, and 
it was watched by about 7 or 8 people over 
the whole country, including me. 



TS: There was just the one then? 

RL: Yeah. A series did come out of il that 
I wasn't involved in. I think Mac may have 
done it though. 

TS: The last time He spoke to you, you were 
just about to go over to America, did 
anything come of that? Other than Red 
Dwarf, which we'll talk about later. 

RL: Well, I'm going back there soon to sell 
a sit-com that I've written myself. Basically 
I'm going on holiday, but I'm also gonna try 
and sell a sit-com 'cause I know I won't. But 
I'm going to go through the motions to see 
what it's like. I've been there a few times 
before and I've been trying to sell work in 
the past and I have sold pieces to the Fox 
network, but basically it's very difficult to get 
in. But because of meeting some more 
people from doing Red Dwarf I thought, 'well 
It's silly to waste the opportunity, when these 
things happen you should just take 'em and 
run.' 

TS: When you sell these things do you 
attempt to sell them as vehicles for yourself 
to star in? 

RL: No, I wouldn't want to write something 
that I was in, not on that level, little one-off 
things are alright. But to do a series that you 
write as well as being in... I'd rather take one 
step back either as a writer or as a performer 
- you know, do one or the other. 




"Some times making Red Dwarf can be a real pain <n the back! " 



TO: Moving on 10 fled Dwarf - USA, how 
tiki it come about? When did you first hear 
about it? 

Mi Well it was during the time we were 
recording Red Dwarf V last year. It was a 

wry difficult decision to make because you 
have to sign a six year contract m America. 
They don't negotiate on that, they'd negotiate 
on anything else, but that's a deal breaker 
as they call It. So If I say (puts on pitiful. 
whlnging voice) -but I just want to come for 
a few months to see if I'm happy' they won't 
do it. So it mos a difficult decision to make 
and I actually didn't say yes until just before 
Christmas, and by then they were right up 
- 1 -" R and warn putting me under a lot 
of pressure. I was in Australia then, 
supposedly on holiday, but they found me 
- I was hiding in an obscure beach-side 
motel hoping that no-one would find out 
where I was, but they managed to get me. 
They were insistent and just put the pressure 
on. Eventually I just caved in, about 5 
O'Clock one morning when they rang me 
I said, Alright! Alright!' But they were very 
good about it and now I have very mixed 
feelings about the fact that it didn't go 
ahead, because I'd love to have done it. I 
liked the cast, I also liked the people that 
were making it, but I didn't fancy the 
prospect of living there that long I must 
admit. And that was just before the riots 
happened and you could really feel it, I 
mean it was in the air - quite a tense place 
to be. 



TO: How did LA differ as a place to work ? 

RL: Wall they have a bit more of everything 
They have a tot more room and a lot more 
money, they actually have much more time. 
They crew were much less... well they just 
worked so differently and I kept thinking 'Is 
this worse or better?' For instance, during 
rehearsals, the crew - the cameramen, the 
lighting and sound people - were bloody 
awful. They were hopeless, they couldn't get 
anything right, nothing wonted, they were 
lazy; there were hundreds of them and it 
seemed like it was really overmanned. But, 
on the day the audience was in, as soon as 
there were people watching they became 
like gung-ho commandos, they were 
chucking cameras around and drilling 
things in with their fingers - they were 
incredibly tough. They were very good too, 
really efficient, we shot through that show 
faster than I've ever done anything. Rob and 
Doug will tel 1 you, it was very quick once 
they got in the swing, but it just took them 
so bng. They're so slobby when they're not 
doing it, there's so much food around, they 
have huge tables, buffets all day. I went 'ooh, 
can I have that?' and I was stuffing my face 
because it was free. There were sweets and 
everything really. 

TO: Vbur costume was slightly different over 
there wasnt it? 

RL: That was partly on my insistence. It was 
much more comfortable, I could sit down in 



it, I could eat in it, none of which I could do... 
I couldn't have a piss, that was still pretty 
impossible, I certainly couldn't do anything 
else. 

TS: Well you could if you were really 



RL: Yeah I could just stand there and do 
it, could be rather unpleasant for the rest of 
the cast though. Otherwise I'd have to get 
unzipped and unplugged, you know, it takes 
rather a long time. 

TSs After the pilot there was a promo, you 
weren't involved in that at all were you? 

RL: No, because I was back here then Rob 
and Doug went back out to do that. 

TS: Were you asked to do that? 

RL: No. I think it was just a last ditch attempt 
to try and convince them. 



TS: Did you ever get to see it? 

RL- Very briefly yeah, I've seen it once here 
It was very strange to see if because il hat: 
a lot of us in it from here - from England 
- it was a kind of strange misn-mash of 
things. 

TS: Did you think that the pilot episode had 
the potential to be developed into a full 
series. 

RL: I think so. I mean, there's a good story 
there, a long battle to which I'm only party 



to a slice of, because I was in the cast - 
we were kept away from it and quite carefully 
looked after in a corner. So I didn't find out 
about a lot of what was going on until we 
got back here and l spoke to Rob and Doug. 
It's impossible to tell really, I think they did 
screw it up - the Americans sort of messed 
it up - but not in the way that we think 
they're gonna screw it up. Because, I think 
the cast were excellent, they were very good 
actors and the script was very good because 
Rob and Doug had a hand in the script. It's 
just that they kind of do everything so 
naturalistically there, which is fine when 
you've got people in a bar or people in a 
living room, but when you've got people 
hanging upside-down 98 million miles from 
Earth it doesn't quite cut it. And it didn't have 
the production values that the English one 
had at all. They built the set - it was a very 
extraordinary experience to be there - 
exactly the same as the British set only 
bigger, because they're Americans and 'It's 
gotta be bigger! ' The door that goes into the 
living quarters I have to duck to get under, 
anybody would, it's very low. So whenever 
I'd walk in I'd duck, and I was rehearsing in 
this thing and they said 'Robert, why do you 
duck?' and the top of the door was like two 
feet above my head. It was just an automatic 
thing, because I'd bashed my head so many 
times - when I've got the mask on I can't 
tell, I can't see anything up there. 

TS: Was the mask very different? Because 
it looked more similar than we'd been led 



RL- Right, good, I like the fact that you said 
that, I think it looks very similar. It is actually 
very different; rt covered less of my face and 
it didn't go into my mouth which was the 
really big benefit It just basically meant that 
I was a bit cooler and could eat - and I 
quite like eating. I really cant eat with the 
English one on, I can suck soup through a 
straw and I can have Chicken McNuggets, 
which I hate, but I can get them in my 
mouth. Whatever I eat I have to be able to 
put in my mouth - I cant bite anything oft 
- I couldn't have a bit of celery with 
mayonnaise because the lips go soggy, the 
rubber on them... it's just loo horrible to 
explain But there that part of my mouth was 
free; the mask just came round the edge 
of my mouth, but didn't go into my mouth. 
Then they put make-up on top of that, but 
they could easily repair that If I messed it 
up. it also had a nose piece that went on 
and less of my face was covered. I had it 
on for 1 6 hou rs on the day of the shoot which 
is a long day - my record is 17 hours - 
l moaned about it because I'm like that and 
it's just my habit, but actually it was nothing 
like as uncomfortable as the English one. 

TS: Surely they could use the same 
process here, because the mask did look 

identical really. 

RL- Well, I'm very glad you said that and 

I will use thai in evidence to support my 
case. I mean , I can understand why they do 
it, I hate the mask because I low L bvmm* 
it works. I see the mask on screen and I 
think 'Bloody hell, it does took good,' but its 
a real dilemma for me because I'd love to 



TS: They'd haw to Now up his spare heads 



have it different. I've given them drawings compare it, it was a very odd experience - 

of all sorts of other ideas and said "well why especially after having just finished the 

don't you blow up Kryten's head and give series here then going more or less straight 

him a new one?' on to do it. 

TS: Is it likely to cause you any problems 
in Red Dwarf VI? 

RL: I don't think so. we've all seen each 
other since and we've all had a laugh about 
it. In fact I saw Craig the other day, I was 
walking down the street and suddenly there 
was someone on my back - hejumpedon 



RL: Yeah, why don't they go into the spare 
head shed and blow them all to pieces with 
a laser gun? 

TS: Kryten's personality seemed a little 

different in the US version too, he was bolder 
and wittier, did you nave a hand in that? 



DON'T MISS PART 2 OF THIS 

INTERVIEW IN NEXT MONTH'S 

RED DWARF SMEGAZINE! 



RL: Not at all no, but it felt very different to 
play as well; because I was playing with 
Americans my accent sounded really bad 
- because they were real Americans and 
could really do it - apparently they all said 
my accent was really funny because I 
sounded like a stupid Canadian who was 
trying to be posh, which basically I suppose 
is what I was trying to do but didn't know. 
My Canadian friends make me laugh when 
they're just trying to tell me the time - I 
think a Canadian accent is just quite 
amusing. All the American cast 
impersonated me all the time; they went (he 
adopts Kryten voice) 'Oh, hello Robert' and 
I was just going shut up, shut up'. But it was 
useful from the point of view of saying 'well, 
how do I say..?' and ask how to say a 
particular word, and they'd keep repeating 
it and I'd hear it and and get it right, which 
I never do when I'm over here, I'm just 
guessing. What it did was change the way 
I play it, it became a different piece, it was 
like playing a different character in a different 
thing. There's not really any way you can 
Just some of the American actors Robert never got to make a series with. 




HOLLY-GRAMS 



Dear Red Dwarf, 

Thank you for such a wonderful mag, bur - yes, 
there is a but - il should be ihkker. Just one more 
story than there is now please. 
I have seen every single episode on TV and every 
one hos had me rolling out of my seal with 
laughter, i am only twelve years old and I am 
ill waiting for the new series la come 



Christian Bell, Cleelhorpes. 

The new series shouldnt be too far away now, 
Christian And just !o make you even happier, we 
are indeed going to moke the Red Dworf 
Smegazine ihkker with issue 15. June in nexl 
month lor futlhet details! 

Dear Red Dwarf Smegozine, 
In the second Red Dwarf book, 'Better Than life', 
on page 226, Holly hos told the characters to colled 
a lot of canisters that were floating in space. 
WHATC IN M CANISTERS??!?? 
I've been over the book several times, being the 
sad individual thai I om, ond either I've missed 
thing extremely vitally important in the whole 
plot, or Rob Granl and Doug Naylor set oul to 
deliberately smeg me off. 

I'm pleading lo you to help me preserve my 
remaining sanity by telling me what was in those 
canisters. I know it's only a niggly little thing, but 
I'd love to find out. 
Claire Senior, Pontefrocl 

I hope you don't mind, Claire, btil I've edited your 
letter a little, so as not to give away one 
particularly important plot point irom the book lo 
anyone vtha hasn 't read it yet. Now, as lor those 
canisters... you're not alone in your confusion. A 
lot o! people were slumped by this port of the hook 
ond I musl admit thai I didn't work it oul until I 
read il lor a second time, hen Rob and Doug 
didn't seem loo sure when I double-checked il with 
them, but they confirmed my theory in the end. 
The canisters contain the dead crew and thai 
particular canister contains whatever was left of 
Kristine Kochanski Does the ending moke more 
sense lo you now (hire? 

Dear Red Dwarf, 

Congratulations on the Smegazine. Il is not just a 

slavish fan magazine, bul actually contributes 



original ond lunny material to the Red Dwarf 
universe. On a recent trip to the US I attended o 
Halloween party in San Diego whose theme was... 
you guessed it, Red Dwarf. The host and hostess, 
Nick and Angie De Rosa, were dressed as Rimmer 
and a certain talkative Toaster (complete with price 
tag, browning knob, everything - even two nice 
fresh pieces of toast popping up). Amongsl others 
who attended were an attractively dead 
ir horn the Nova 5 ond two versions of 



Brian Chernicky, who came dressed as lister, also 
supplied his own artwork in the form of Holly on 
screen, but most impressively o 10 foot long 
painting of the Red Dworf itself to adorn the living 
room wall. Non-stop videos of episodes from series 
II and III were run and large amounts of curry and 
lager were consumed. In order lo ensure absolute 
authenticity and a successful party, a traffic cone 
was liberated from the street and brought along to 
join in the fun. I enclose a few pictures that I took 
whilst sober enough to do so which might be of 
interest. 
Ross Sargent, Folkestone. 




Dear Hol-babes, 

Being of a moderately Lister-like disposition ond of 
unsound mind (what mind?], I am writing to say... 
'See that genetic mutant? That's your boyfriend, 
that is.* No, I'm not mad! I've got my caroling 
King Edwards to keep me company. However, to 



more serious matters (naot), I wish you to know 
that I lind that stimulating ond educational 
programme 'Aaondroids, everryboody needs good 
aaandroids' on Groovy Channel 27 truly inspiring, 
as does Kryten. The fine acting! The superlative 
accents! The sizzling wit! And who could forget the 
saucy electrical appliance catalogues? So, if you 
don't start watching Androids, Mr Flibble will be 
EXTREMELY cross! Got lo go now, my straight- 
jacket's arrived [magenta and lime tartan, of 
course). 

Uz, a truly fine personage festering in I 
There's always one, isn't there? 

Dear RDS, 

The following passage is taken from page 79 of the 
first Red Dwarf novel by Grant Naylor: 
'Rimmer arrived, breathless, back at the sleeping 
quarters. He skidded to a holt in front of his 
timetable. His eyes scanned the chart lor an error. 
He couldn't find one. He couldn't find one for a 
whole two minutes. Then he froze. In his haste not 
lo dwell on the construction of his chart, somehow 
he'd included two Septembers.' 
Are you doing a 'Rimmer' or whol? What the smeg 
happened lo December? Have I missed something, 
because Smegozine No.8 was dated Oct '92, 
Smegazine No. 9 was Nov '92, Smegazine No.10 
was Nov '92 and Smegazine No.1l was Jan (not 
even a '93, mind you there wasn't much space 
down in the corner with the barcode) Perhaps 
you've been having trouble with while holes? 
Perhaps December will pop up later in the year? 
Perhaps 1 1 months from now would be a good 
idea, if it's not too much trouble. 
Sandy De Clara, London. 
you'll no doubt have read my feeble attempt lo 
wriggle oul of this lost issue, Sandy, bul all I con 
soy is, it's a fair cop. I did a 'Rimmer' ond I m 
deeply ashamed. You'll gel a December issue this 
year and that's definite. Probably. 






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Jane Killick goes on location with Grant Naylor's new TV show... 







I he new sit-com by the writers of Red 
Dwarf is about a theatrical agency, 
which is about as far away from a 
mining ship lost in deep space as it's 
possible to be. On the other hand, 
some people who have had experience 
of theatrical agents might well consider 
a group of people from outer space as 
quite a good analogy for them. As writer 
Rob Grant so tactfully puts it. "in this 
fictional thing... they're blood-sucking, 
leechy vultures." 

Like many sit-coms • Red Dwarf 
included - some advance filming of The 
10%ers is necessary before the rest of 
the episode can be made before a 
studio audience. So, while you may 
have actually caught the pilot show on 
ITV when it aired recently, let me take 
you back to a chilly day last November 
as we join the cast and crew at the 
exotic location of a graveyard near 
Shepperton. The real Vicar of the 
church has generously turned his church 
and its picturesque grounds over to the 
film crew. Even his bouse - the vicarage 
- is open for anyone who needs to visit 
the toilet! A representative from Grant 
Naylor assures us that the production 
company will be contributing to the 
collection plate to show their 
appreciation. 

The actors and crew are at the 
church in Surrey to film a funeral scene 
for the pilot show. "That's a client who 
died," explains Rob Grant, "and one of 
the agents is trying to seduce his widow 
over the graveside." 

Atin (played by Benedict Taylor) is a 
young, ambitious, self-centred agent 
and is the only representative from the 
agency to make it to the funeral. The 
Vicar begins the service, but is 
interrupted by a telephone ringing. Atin 
takes the phone from his pocket, makes 
a quick deal and apologises to the 
mourners. The Vicar, unabashed, 
resumes the service, only to be 
interrupted by another strange noise - 
Atin's fax machine. He fumbles with his 
case to turn it off. but loses his grip and 
spills the contents of his case into the 
grave. What's more, his case contains 
some of the dead mans records which 
trying to re-issue in the wake of 




MR TEN PER CENT: Attn (Benedict Taylor) 



publicity surrounding his death {or as 
Atin puts it in the show "in the wake of 
his wake, so to speak"). 

The scene doesn't last very long in 
the final version, but it takes a couple of 
hours to film it all. It's filmed from eight 
different angles several times over, all of 
which have to be carefully set up. The 
poor actor who's playing the Vicar has to 
repeat his short eulogy over and over 
again. 

And there are some unexpected 
problems from a nearby school. The 
kids aren't at all interested in the filming, 
but they ore interested in enjoying their 
lunchtime - very loudly! The problem for 
the film crew is that children shouting 
and screaming is a less-than-ideal 
background noise for a funeral. One of 
the crew is despatched to ask them to 



grave moment 



keep quiet. The teachers admirably 
achieve this the first time, but the 
children aren't so keen to spoil their 
enjoyment of lunchtime a second and a 
third time. In the end, no one dares ask 
the children to be quiet any more 
because the Headmistress is reported to 
be "going bonkers". They decide to film 
a couple of sequences where the sound 
will be dubbed-on later. 

It is a beautifully sunny day, but most 
of the graveyard scene is being filmed in 
the shade where it is freezing cold. Liz 
Hickling, who is playing the grieving 
widow, is wearing thin mourning clothes 
and as soon as the camera is off her, 
someone brings a coat and scarf to 
wrap around her shoulders to stop her 
from freezing. 

It all brings back memories ol filming 



Red Dwarf in similar conditions. This 
seems to be usual filming conditions tor 
Granl Naylor Productions, or as one of 
the crew would have it, a lot of filming in 
this country - "We never do any filming in 
the summer when we have long days, or 
on the ground floor!" he comments. 

During a welcome break, everyone 
rushes to the production van (which has a 
very good heating system} and grabs 
some food from the location caterers. 
Rob Grant (who's wearing three jumpers 
and a coat) explains more about The 
W%ers. "It's about a group of theatrical 
agents in the West End and their trials 
and tribulations." it has been suggested 
it is based on the writers' experiences. 
"Yes. Without getting into law suits, yes. 
No one's actually directly represented on 
the screen, but bits of people are. 

"It's actually something we've wanted 
to do for a couple of years now and we 
wrote an earlier version of this script that 
we're recording now and sent it to the 
BBC and they turned it down, because 
it's about show business and they don't 
like to do things about show business. 
We've only been rejected once by the 
BBC for this one!" 

The script then got shut away in a 

I drawer somewhere before Grant Naylor 
Productions were approached by an ITV 

I company who were looking to develop 
several new comedy shows, as Rob 
explains: "Carlton [ITV's London weekday 
broadcaster] had this slot of Comedy 
Playhouses. They wanted to do a series 

I of seven or eight pilot shows and they 
asked us it we wanted to do one and we 
said 'oh yes, we've got this thing' and we 

j went away and re-wrote it." 

"That's not true." Doug Naylor chips-in 
from where he's sitting behind Rob. 
"Totally untrue." 

"Well, you're supposed to be here 
[doing this interview]," says Rob. 





ABOVE. V/tots in the grave? The mourners take a too*. BOTTOMLEFT ~- -| [fiiri i i j n i 

micmphone BOTTOMRIGHT: Bri i n ( u B 1 1 j y r 'mill I'limi B>n«^ Wt *m - 

"Sorry. I'm just having my lunch," Doug Hanging arouna r^e oearc- =-oot is 

replies. He spends several minutes another familiar face "s z ;-^- .Vagg. 
trying to find somewhere to sit, but the effects supremo fo- **c >.- a-q s 
van is more like a school bus and there's been called in to oo ™*e e--r-r= :- ~"e 
only really enough room for one-and-a- )0%ers. Peter Wragg waxs faf -•= BBC 
half adults on each seat. Doug full time, so what's he oong y a- iTV 
eventually gives up and returns to his show? It turns out to be a* acoe-ccard. 
original seat to finish his lunch. "I'll just Rob Grant and Doug Najrtcr raded him 
boo from the back," he says. and asked if would dc — i --■=-:-- ■;■ — eif 

"The main characters," continues Rob, new show. After a wore •— - = BBC 
"are the head of the agency, a guy called bosses, everything was ag-eec - 3 r ant 
Dominic who's played by Clive Francis. Naylor Productions just pa> ~~ ==Z for 
who's very funny - we're really fond of the his services. 

cast. His wile who's not actually part of He's down at the church ya.-z :z dc an 

the agency, but she's an ex-Bond girl and effects shot where Dominic s 3razinan 
she's a Brazilian and people might wife drops a gargoyle onto tne -oc* of his 
recognise her a bit from Juanita in the Bentley. The car has been frrted wrth a 
books. She's basically losing her temper convincing false roof which wrt oent with 
all over the place and embarrassing him the impact of the gargoyle. He "as to 
and humiliating him. We've got - actually arrange it so that we see the reac on of 
you've seen him this morning - Atin, Dominic inside when the gargoyle -akes 
who's a completely amoral, snidey. a depression in the root, 
sneaky, sub-human. There's an 
American called Tony who's sort of 
sleazy, he handles people like female 
naked mud wrestlers, and things like 
that. And some women - it's been nice 
to have been writing for some women for 
a change because it's really hard in Red ■ 
Dwarf to do a fully developed woman I ^^^^JlaH 

part. One ol the women is Helen, who's I W^F ' ^H 
the only agent in the agency who cares ^ 
for her clients, and all the others look 
down on her and think she's a bit of a 
silly person, but she's earnest and she 
believes in them. There's Joan, who's a 
very self-obsessed older woman, she 
has a younger lover, a very much 
younger lover. And then there's the 
various clients they have." 

That's a very large cast for a British 
sit-com. They usually centre around four 
people. "There's actually nine regulars," 
says Rob. "Dominic's driver's a regular, 
and there's an actor who's never actually 
been in anything, but hangs around the 
agency all the time desperate for a job 
and never will get one. And there's the 
receptionist who's a regular character, 
not just someone who answers the 
phone, she's integral to the action." 




With the same writers, production 
I company and effects crew, there should 
1 be something in the show for Red Dwarf 

fans. "I'd hope they'd like if." says Rob 

Grant, "because it's our style of comedy. 
I But it's really designed to appeal to a 
I different audience, that hopefully will 

include Red Dwarf fans, but also people 
| who don't like Science Fiction as well. 

'I just think in general we don't just 
I want to spend our lives working in one 

genre. Because simply there are a 
I number of people who wouldn't watch 

something simply because it's science 
I fiction, and we'd like to do something for 
| those people as well." 

They only have this one episode to 
I make an impression on Carlton TV and 
I the ITV audience. Only when the 
I audience reaction is in will a decision be 
I made whether to take The W%ers to a full 
I series. "That's what we hope.'' says Rob. 
I "I know that Carlton s objective in this 
I exercise is to shoot six. seven or eight 
I pilots and try and pick, hopefully, two of 
I them that will go to series. So it's quite 3 
I cruel ratio really, but were very pleased 
I with it. we're really excited about it and 
I we think it's going to last." 

With the new companies and a new 
I regime at ITV, comedy is one of the areas 
I they plan to concentrate on. Rob Grant 
I agrees that in the past BBC have had the 
I edge where it comes to sit-coms. "I think 
I one of the mistakes that is constantly 
I made, particularly in ITV sit-coms, but it 



happens on the Beeb as well, is a star- 
driven vehicle where you say, oh Penny 
Keith wants to do a sit-com, let's do one 
for her' and I don't think that's the right 
way round of doing things. I think you 
should have a good idea and then cast it. 
That's why we've gone for a big cast, we 
want it to be an ensemble of comedy 
where everybody gets their own story like 
a Cheers kind-of-thing. I think that if you 
have a star vehicle and you've got a 
Penny Keith or a Paul Eddington, or 
whatever, you tend to concentrate on 
trying to make them funny and not 
concentrate on the people around them... 
it puts a straight -jacket on the show right 
from the start." 

For The 10%ers, everything comes 
together in the final recording in front of 
the studio audience. "We're trying to 
avoid it being the moment of truth as 
much as possible," says Rob. "We want 
to pre-record round about half of it on the 
previous day. anyway, so we're 
completely covered. And then we're 
going to shoot the show twice. We're 
going to have two runs at it so everybody 
gets the chance to do it in front of an 
audience and we've got one show in the 
can before we go to the final performance 
in the evening, which will be the proper 
one, really. We're trying to make it as 
least like a moment of reckoning as we 
can... I'm not even sure it's going to be 
possible because it only allows you 
something like an hour and a quarter to 




ABOVE Grant Uaytoi Productions Kathleen Hutchinson 
toys Willi a new caieei as a professional mourner. 
BELOW: Rob Grant slays cool in the com out Doug Naytor 



a pen to keep his teet 



to rely on a pen to keep his teeth 



After lunch, the car and as many of the 
crew who can fit in the back, take a trip 
around the country lanes to film the 
gargoyle scene. Everyone else is left in 
the graveyard to clear up. As for the 
grave itself, it is to be filled in to make 
sure no one actually gets buried in it! 




Heard Any Good Books Lately? 



RED DWARF - THE TALKING BOOK (UNABRIDGED VERSION) 
Loughing Stock Productions £25.99 




He sings, he snores, he throws-up; he's a 
computer; he's a Dutchman, a dead man; 
an artificial man, a woman; and a cat - he's 
Chris Borne reading 'Red Dwarf - Infinity 
Welcomes Careful Drivers'. 

Using so many different voices, Chris brings 
the reading on these 6 cassettes to life like 
few other narrators could His mimicry 
enables him to do close impressions of all 



the crew, and even some of the minor 
characters. Funniest is his impression of 
Holly, the dumb-sounding computer with an 
adenoid problem (at least, that's how Chris 
makes him sound! The dialogue 
sequences ore definitely the best thing 
about the talking book. If it hod actually 
been written to be read aloud by Chris 
Borrie, it would surely have had more of 
these. 

But the recording is an exact rendition of the 
novel and it is to the producer's credit that 
they plumped for a complete and 
u nob ridged version - even though this 
stretches to around eight hours! 

All the background, inventiveness, familiar 
and not-so-familiar scenes are here But 
because it's written like a book, some parts 
don't work quite as well as they do on the 
printed page. It can also seem a bit slow for 
those used to zipping through the pages of 
a novel. But then to actually hear Olaf 
Petersen vomiting is something paper and 
ink cannot compete with. 

It's best listened to in segments of one side 
of a tape at a time, as they always end on 
an appetising cliff-hanger. Each tape 
begins with a rendition of the Red Dwarf 
opening theme - although it's a slightly 
different mix each time. And each tape ends 



with a music sting, which is a nice touch. 

Technical qualify could probably be a little 
better My tapes were a bit 'hissy' and the 
clarity of sound didn't quite match up to the 
rich tone of Radio 4 

Having said thot. eight out of ten Red Dwarf 
fans, who express a preference, would 
probably vote for Chris Barrie to come round 
to their house and read them a bedtime 
story The Talking Book is the onswer to 
their prayers The price is not bad at all tor 
six cassettes, either 

REVIEWER'S' TIP; It's a great way to pass an 
eight-hour power cut during the winter - 
snuggled up in bed with Chris Barrie and a 
battery-powered walkman 1 

Jane Killick 



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DWARF 



THE 

£7 INTERVIEW 

GRAHAM HUTCHINGS 



Graham Hutching* has been working on 'Red Dwarf 1 since the beginning of Series IV, when 
he took over as the chow's Videotape Editor. Being more or less completely Ignorant about 
what this means, we decided to meet up with him and find out - and Graham kindly agreed 
to spend his afternoon off filling us in on this often overlooked area of television production. 



THE SMEQAZINE: So what 
exactly does the job of Videotape 
Editor entail? 

GRAHAM HirTCHINOS: Well, the 
editing process is in theory the joining 
together of all the scenes. In its simp- 
listic form, you could just discard the 
bad scenes, join it all together and 
you'd have a completed programme. 
But it probably still wouldn't work, 
because programmes are basically 
made in the editing by changing the 
timing of the performances, by 
speeding things up, mixing different 
performances from different takes and 
choosing which bits of each perfor- 
mance you want. Timing is the most 
critical thing of all, especially in comedy 
programmes, and if you don't get the 
timing nght or if the pictures don't 
illustrate the storyline or the joke, then 
obviously you've completely messed it 
up. 

TS; Hov different is videotape 
editing from film editing? 

OH: The concept of tape editing is 
different to film editing in the sense that 
film is a medium which you handle 
physically; you physically cut the film 
and join all the bits together. Tape 
editing is different, and there's always 
been this son of distance between film 
editors and tape editors; film editors 
have always been used to physically 
cutting film and tape editing to them is 
a nightmare, because it involves using 
electronic equipment and computers 





The Edit Suite 



and they didn't quite understand it. But 
now it's sort ot merging together, 
because with the advent of new sys- 
tems, film editors are finding it a lot 
easier to use electronic equipment to 
cut tape - and obviously, a new gener- 
ation of people are coming up that 
understand computer based systems. 
So ten years ago, you had quite a big 
division between film editors and tape 
editors, but in the last ten years, the 
gap's narrowed quite a lot and it's 
getting narrower and narrower. 

TOs So what's the first thing you do 
when an episode ot 'Rod Dwarf has 
been recorded? 

QH: First, you record all the material 
- ail your rushes as they come out of 
the studio - on to high grade tape, 
which in our particular case is 
Betacam. What comes out of the studio 
is a representation of the director's 
interpretation of the script, as far as he 
can get it right on the night, so what you 
get is what they call a switched feed, 
which is a scene with all the cuts in it 
which, in theory, should be okay. But 
obviously, there are potential errors in 



the cutting sequence as it's done on the 
night, 'cos you can't get it nght first time, 
so you also record as many cameras 
as you can clean, so they don't have 
any cuts, they're actually recording the 
output of one camera all the time. So 
we land up at the edit with switched 
feed and as many cameras isolated as 
possible, so that gives us the flexibility 
fo be able to recut any scene. So if a 
cut is in the wrong place, because it's 
miscued or something, you can change 
the cut points. That's quite critical, 
because obviously you can affect the 
timing of a sequence by where the cut 
point is. Added to that, you've also got 
the ability by editing to tighten up a cut. 

TSz Presumably, its down to you to 
make sure that the episodes run to 
the correct length? 

OH: Yes. I mean, what we normally do 
is a rough cut, we do an off-line first of 
all, before we get involved in any real 
effects work or anything sophisticated. 
That means basically editing the 
programme using low-grade tape, so all 
the rushes are transformed onto... it's 
not a VHS tape system, it's slightly 



better than VHS, but it's a low cost 
system compared with going into an on- 
line suite. So we basically start off by 
doing a rough cut; we join everything 
together, choosing what we think at the 
time are the best takes and the best 
performances. I normally start editing 
before they've finished shooting, I do a 
rough cut while they're still down in 
Shepperton shooting the next episode, 
so Rob and Doug don't come to that. 
I just do a rough cut so they can see 
if everything works, and then if they 
need to re-shool something, they can 
do that the following week or at the end 
of the whole thing. So basically, the 
idea of doing a cut initially is to get an 
idea that everything's okay, that it's 
working. Having done that, you can 
then get an idea of the length of the 
programme as is. Invariably they're 
overlength, by maybe five or six 
minutes. 

TO: Does that mean you have to 
start cutting out scenes? 

GH: Not necessarily. It depends - if 
it was ten minutes out, you probably 
would be looking at scene cuts, yes. 



Five minutes, you could probably get 
out of it in slack, just by tightening the 
dialogue up. At the end of the day, the 
secret with comedy is the tightening 
that you do at the editing, because 
that's when you get the pace into the 
show. If you look at the performances 
coming out of the studio, they're 
normally quite slow, and the pace is put 
into the performance at the edit. We're 
sometimes literally tightening every cut, 
every bit of dialogue. And quite often, 
we're just editing words in from other 
takes, maybe one shot from one other 
take just because the performance on 
that particular sentence was better, 
I mean it's that critical. 




OH: Well, after the first cut, Rob and 
Doug axe always there, so that's not a 
decision I would make. It's a decision 
I might contribute to, but it's very much 
their decision. There are always inevit- 
able discussions about whether some- 
thing is working or not in terms of 
concept, and they sort of use me as a 
sounding board as to whether some- 
thing is wonting or not. They can get so 
sort of locked into something that they 
may not realise if it's not working, do 
you know what I mean? And I can say, 
"Well, I've just looked at that for the first 
time and I don't understand it." So then 
we have to go back and re-think the 
order of the thing, and quite often we're 
changing scenes around as well, 
we might swap two scenes around 
because they work better that way. 
And obviously, use of model shots is 
very critical in establishing where you 
are and what's happening. A prime 
example in the last series was the 
Squid (in 'Back to Reality'). Peter 
(Wragg) shot a squid in a tank which 
was basically a tentacled thing, and it 
just didn't work - I mean nobody's 
fault, it just didn't work, it didn't look 
menacing. So in the end, the Squid 
was actually a shadow that we created 
in the edit suite. 

Did the same thing go tor the 

ing 

i7Afthoog#n 

ofrt.wx 

CH: Yes. Again, we purposely cut the 
amount of the model you saw down to 
a bare minimum, because it didn't work 
if you saw it for a long time; just 
snatches of it were much better. With 
a lot of these things, if you have the 
chance to look at them tor any length 
of time, you start looking at the flaws. 




And again, that's the technique of 
editing in creating an atmosphere 
without giving too much away. It's a 
psychological game of what you can get 
away with without destroying the 
illusion. That's a critical side of editing 
- it's a whole illusion act, creating an 
image that's not necessarily true. 



QH: Well, I knew when I was at school 
that I wanted to edit and I knew I wanted 
to join the BBC. but I was told at sixteen 
"Oh, you shouldn't go now, you should 
go to university." So I went to university 
and did a degree in Applied Physics 
and Electronics and then joined the 
BBC as an engineer, when I left. In 
those days, the BBC were using Quad, 
which was like really big machines, two- 
inch tape. That's what they used to 
record TV programmes on, but they 
were quite complex beasts, so they 
were manned by engineers - so 
editing was also done by engineers, 
because it had grown out of an 
engineering background. But as time 
went on, the engineering element was 
reduced and the creative element 
increased, because machines became 
more reliable. And then they went on 
to one-inch machines and they needed 
very little technical knowledge to run 
them, but by then, computerised 
editing had come along and all that and 
engineers naturally gravitated into 
running editing suites - obviously, 
those with any creative flair gravitated 
to become editors. 

I actually worked at the BBC for ten 
years, then I left and went freelance and 
eventually landed up in this company 
I'm involved with now. 



QH: Yes. It's basically a post-production 
company that just specialises in 
broadcast work; part of a group of 
companies. There are three major 
companies - Complete Video, which 
does special effects work and commer- 
cials, a production company called 
Celador and then there's us, who do 
specialist broadcasting. But it's also 
integrated - we do talk to each other, 
so we all know what's happening. And 
as far as 'Red Dwarf' is concerned, all 
the special effects stuff, any sort of 
computer graphics type work, is done 
at Complete, because they've got all the 
good special effects machines, like 
HARRY. 



QH: HARRY is the name of a machine 
which is manufactured by Quanta 
Quanto are the leaders in the market 
in terms of machines that will manipu- 
late pictures, so when it comes to 
wrapping pictures and moving them 
around and Paintbox, all that sort of 
stuff is done with HARRY. Now super- 
ceded by HENRY - I think that's 
Quanto's little joke, really. As I say, that's 
where a lot of the last series' special 
effects were done, but I do a lot in the 
suite as well. Things like light beams 
out of guns, things like that, are done 
on an editing desk. 

From my point of view as well, 'Red 
Dwarf' is unique in television - at least, 
as far as I can see. I mean, it's exceed- 
ingly complicated - perceptually, it's 
complicated from the point of view of 
the audience, so you're having to get 
very difficult concepts across in a very 
short space of time. Added to that, 
you've got the complication of comedy 
as well - and technically, it's probably 
the most complex show on television, 
in terms of special effects. I can't think 
of anything else on television that has 
those three major complications; 
sitcoms are normally fairly straight- 
forward in terms of both storyline and 
the way they're shot. So I think 'Red 
Dwarf' is very unique - apart from 
maybe 'Star Trek' but that's not a 
comedy, that's very straightforward. 




QH: Well, there are constantly massive 
changes in technology, yes, and it's 
difficult to keep up with the operational 
skills involved in using this equipment, 
but what tends to happen is that you 
tend to specialise in particular areas. I 
wouldn't consider myself to be a 
specialist special effects person - in 
other words, I can't run HARRY. I can 
do a lot of special effects on the 
equipment I've got, but I can't actually 
go and run the HARRY machine. And 
I can't run Paintbox because I'm not an 
artist - but with all these things, it's a 
question of knowing what needs to be 
done and guiding people in that 
direction, overseeing it. Part of my job 
is overseeing all that for Rob and Doug, 
so although I may not be able to 
operate the equipment, I understand 
the technology and I know exactly what 
it can do, so I can talk to the guys who 
operate with equipment and say "I want 
it to do this, this and this." 



TSs What other, 



programmes do you 



OH; I'm just vwrking on a series for the 
BBC called The Detectives', which is 
a spinoff out of 'Canned Carrot!' 

Tfc >es.Ed Bye was telling us about 
(hat (last Issue); 4 sounds reaf/y 
good. 

OH: I started editing that in the first 
week of October. That's all been shot 
on Super 60. ft looks very good, I think 
it's going to be fun. 

T8e What becomes of all the footage 

that's edited out? ten wiped, or is It 
kept? 

CM Mxj never ever destroy any original 

material in the editing process, because 
all you do is dub shots from one tape 
to another. So all the master material 
from the last series and probably all the 
previous series could still exist 



No, not a scene from UFO - this is Complete Video Facilities Ltd's Master Control Room. 



somewhere. They may have wiped a tot 
of it by now, because after the shows 
have gone out, they wont keep it unless 
they actually desperately need it. What 
we do keep are all the things like the 
model shots; we make compilation 
tapes up with all the special effects 
model shots on, because we're always 
looking for model shots and we don't 
want to go back and remake them 
because they're expensive. That's why 
they get repeated - or we blow them 
up a bit and maybe put a bit of a zoom 
on to make them look different. 

Tt: The potential must be there to 
release a video of out-takes, mustn't 
It? 

OH: I'm a bit ami out-takes, to be 
honest with you. I think it's cheap 
television and very passive, and I think 
you get fed up of seeing people falling 
over and stumbling over their lines. 
There aren't very many actually, there 
aren't many brilliant out-takes. 



RED DWARF INTERVIEWERS: 

STEVE LYONS 

A CHRIS HOWARTH 







Lonely? Lovesick? Lovable-but-misunderstood? 
Unburden yourself to Auntie Holly. 



AGONY MINT HOLIY 

Red Dwarf Mining Ship 

Deep Space 

Avery, verv long way away... 

e. you might be dead long before you get a reply, but tnal 



Dear Paul. 

Ec... dunno, really. 
Holly 



Right, here goes. My veiy first 
personal problem letter. Load TEACH 
YOURSELF COUNSELLING. 
Whirr... ping! Bleep, bleep... 



Girt keep - r.uai m 'Dear John' letters. 



Dear John. 
Oops, aony... 
Holly 



SHlneU jb uuj. * tpw* kfhqil raurkr? 

Sqirik 

DearSqirik, 

That's easy. Haawid fnrunppi ii 

fqwvvbi mule. Zmpolkj oijlk ki il, 

deaiil ii a ipocn Itjhqil, innil? 

Hob 



■IL I just go an hoping that tome day bell 
oMier mr . What ihaD I dr.? 
Aagela. 
Dear Angela. 

Don't beshy. Goright up to him, smilt 
and say. "Hi. I'm Angela." Or drop a 
copy of the Red Dwarf Smegazine at 
his feet, so he'll pick it up and give it 
hack to you. If neither of these work, 
put a paper bag over hit head. He'a 
bound to notice SOMETHING, even if 
it's only that it's gone dark early. 
Holly 



of ckaagiag the colour. They ay that Monk* I'm to afraid that my wi 



Dear Janet, 

After three million yean in space I 
seem to have a gap in my on-line 
dictionary between fumy' and 
funninble'. (Did you know that 
funamble means to walk a tightrope? 
No? Neither did I. Good, innit? Can't 
wait for the next chance to drop it into 
the conversation. "I was just 
funambling the other day when I...") 
Where was 1? Oh yes, looking up fun'. 
Hang on a mo' while I load up my 
interplanetary lexicon... 
FUNN: fn) small paracites, bred from 
earth fleaa on Ganymede 
'Ere, what are you si 
Holly 



Derek 
Dear Derek. 

Get me a fun si 
you're there. 
Holly 



■ Cranchie bar while 



love nth you. Those beauuJul eyes, thai alky 

hair, thoor ruby Ujw! Harry me! 

Also 

Dear Alan, 

Listen up, bozo, I'm a computer - 1 

couldn't possibly love anyone with an 

1Q of leas than 6000. (Except maybe 

Ace Rimmer - what a guy!) Are you the 

Ace Rimmer type? If so, send a photo 

immediately. 

HoUy 



ntaoe, please, PLEASE kelp *VjI There •lh> 
boy st college, sad he,, aad L. sad now... 

Dear Jenny, 

Did he? Did you? Oh dear. 

Holly 

Dear Auntie Holly. 

caa'l gel ta sleep at Bight! sad I read and 
rud for hoan sad it asen't make me the 
least hit sleepy aad I've tried counting ihtep 
- but lhal'i jtxt ally, how caa aWp make you 
sleepy? - aad I have a bet milky drink before 
I turn in sad that doesn't help cither sad I 
pan lie awake sad look st si the mess h the 
ceiliBg sad I'm *> tired sad I have ta gel up 



I kave this terrible pain in all the diode, tkrwa 
my left baod aide. What da yau ikiak? 

Dear Marvin. 

I think you're in the wrong programme. 

Holly 



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NAME: None given 

KNOWN ALIASES: loo numerous 
to recount, the ones we have seen 
include both Arnold Rimmer and ha 
mother as weN as Genny, the ever so 
adorable woman who evoked the Cats 
vanity during the Polymorph's attack 
on 'Red Dwarf' Genny waa short tor 
Genetic Mutant, vanity was just the 
second part of a tour-course emotional 
snack, and the love-smitten Cat was 
in big trouble! 

SPECIES: A manmadeGELF - that 

is. Genetically Engineered Life Form. 

OCCUPATION: The Polymorph's 
only occupation is the pursuit of food, 
specifics I ly , the negative emotions of 
anyone it can get close to The 
stronger, the MM 

ORIGINS: GELFs were the ultimate 
in slave labour why bother cobbling 
together bits of metal to make 



rebellious mechanotds or simulants, 
when living tissue can be grown far 
more cheaply and in such a variety of 
interesting shapes? The only problem 
was, what to do with the cast-offs ' The 
wrong answer: bung them an in pods 
marked 'Do Not Open' and jettison 
them cut into spaoa Hence the arrival 
of the Polyrnorph aboard 'Red Dwarf ; 
a ferocious genetically challenged' 
mutant with the inbred power to 
change its shape Wo anything you can 
dream of: animal, vegetable, mineral 
or even Lister's boxer shorts! 

EDUCATION: The Polymorph has 
evolved rather than learnt - Indeed. 
it has done so far beyond the safety 
parameters imagined by its creators! 
Initially fust a lump of genetic waste. 
its incredibly strong survival instinct 
kicked its DNA into gear and forced the 
creature to evolve a number of useful 
attnbutes Useful, that is. rf you happen 
to like temfying innocent people and 



causing severe amounts of trouble 

SKILLS: Quite apart from its impraa 
srve shape-changing abilities, the 
Polymorph has evolved mdd telepathic 
skills. II a thus able to probe the minds 
of each of its warns ascertaining by 
doing so how best to provoke the 
emotiooa B d e ars a . Rx example when 
it felt like snactang on Kryten s gut. it 
took the form of Amok) R*nmer, when 
It fancied swtfkng thai down w*h a 
dose of R immer s anger, « nmulMert 
his mother; and when it fancwd a 
quick taste of Listen fear n turned 
itself into a six foot tai, armour pissed 
killing machine 1 

HOBBIES: As mentioned above, the 
Polymorph has no teat obteoavs other 
man me an too difficult one of surv*« 
Having been abandoned to d» si the 
wastes of space, it can afford no goal 
other than the pursuit of sustenance 

MUSICAL TASTES: Don't these 
standard c a tegories start to teem 
inappropriate when you're rafting 
about evil, slavering, non-human 
IHeforms?) 

ROLE MODELS: Wen. mere was 
once this tntogy of Wms, see. « when 
a woman called Ripley... 

KNOWN ASSOCIATES: Juet one! 
Polymorphs. It seems, (ravel in pain - 

and thrs one's pod-mate was last seen 
sneaking aboard 'Red Dwarf' in the 
guise of one David Lister Lm-oht 

GROUP AFFILIATIONS: None. 
though its presence can often inspire 
others kilo forming groups against it 
The angar-daprived Rimmer wanted 
ha orgenktalton to be cased the 
League Against Salivating Monsters 
although the Committee for the 
Liberation and Integration of Terntywig 
Organisms and their RehattHtaBon 
Into Society would have been a better 
bet had it not been kx its unfortunate 
acronym A major leaflet c a mpaign, he 
felt, would soon see the back of the 



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Asa Red Dwarf tan you'll be well aware 
of the severe withdrawal symptoms that 
can occur while the series is off air. 
Fortunately there Is an antidote as the 
regulars from Red Dwarf are rather 
more visible than those from other 
shows. Hatiie Hayridge is certainty 
more visible off screen when she is on 
stage in her capacity as a stand-up 
comedienne. 

Hart ie Hayridge began her stand-up 
comedy career In Jury 1986. Following 
a spilt with a boyfriend: 'After I'd had 
the screaming fit I still had all this 
energy and wrote five minutes of 
moaning." Fortunately for her ex, 
although he was responsible for Hart ie 
channelling much of her pent-up 
emotion into five minutes worth of 



comedy material, none of it was about 
him... "ft was about childhood, 
probably some deep psychological 
thing". A couple of months later, whilst 
at a club, Hattie got the opportunity to 
perform her material on stage. 
Audience members were invited to get 
up and have a go following the interval 
and, after taking advantage of the 
break to indulge in a bit of Dutch 
courage, namely eight Southern 
Comforts, Hattie deckled to give it a try 
- though how she managed to 
stagger onto the stage is anyone's 
guess Qust kidding). 

"I thought I was rambling and 
screaming." says Hattie describing her 
first stage appearance, "but actually I 
was being really quiet, just pausing 



away." And, if she was surprised after- 
wards about her performance, It was 
nothing to the surprise she felt when 
she was given a booking there and 
then. The rest, as people who are 
prone to using cliches say, is history. 
Though Hattie assures us that she's cut 
down on the Southern Comforts since 
that night - she only needs seven 
these days. Actually that isn't true at all 
because, as Hattie explains, "I'd be in 
the Betty Ford clinic by now if I did." 

The Smegazine went along to both 
of 'major TV celebrity' Hattie's appear- 
ances on the Manchester leg of her 
recent, for want of a better word, tour 
- as she told us, "I haven't done an 
organised tour I just go up to different 
places and come back. I go to places 



HATTIE 5TAMD5 UP 



Report by Chris Howarth and Steve Lyons 




like Exeter and Newcastle at the 
weekend but l hope to do a proper 
organised tour next year (1993)." We 
went to both performances mainly so 
that we could see at first hand how her 
act develops from gig to gig, but also 
because they were local and she said 
she'd get us in for nothing. 

The first of her Manchester spots 
took place at the Band on the Wall 
Club, a music venue every night except 
Sunday when it hosts the Comedy off 
the Wall show - though one suspects 
that the reasons for this are to do with 
the lack of a late drinks licence. There 
were three acts on that particular night, 
the first, who also served as compere, 
was an American comedian whose 
name I've unfortunately forgotten - I 
think it might have been Ray something 
or other - but anyway he was quite 
good when he got going. 'Ray' was 
followed by Brenda Gilhooly. who 
appeared on stage, complete with 
spangled mini dress and blond wig, in 
her other persona, - page 3 stunner, 
Gail Tuesday. I'd recommend seeing 
Brenda's act to anyone: Gail is a 
brilliantly observed characterisation 
and the whole performance was 
extremely funny and memorable. I've 
no doubt that the evening was parti- 
cularly memorable for the sad and 
pathetic guy who was sitting at the front 
staring up Brenda's skirt, especially 
when she noticed him and told the 
audience, if you'll pardon the exp- 
ression, what he was up to - I'm glad 
she didn't realise he'd come along with 



The evening's entertainment culmin- 
ated with Hattie's appearance on the 
stage In her distinctive black and white 
striped dress, Hattie on stage is like 



Hattie on the various TV comedy 
snows you might haw seen her on, but 
of course there's more of it and, In this 
case, more definitely means better. We 
promised her faithfully that we wouldn't 
give away any of her material so you'll 
just have to go and see for yourselves, 
if you haven't already, and you'll get 
plenty of opportunity to do so during 
next year's property organised tour of 
course. However we think it's only right 
to warn you that two innocent Red 
Dwarf Smegazine feature writers were 
rather shocked to hear Hattie utter the 
naughty F word on a couple of 
occasions during her act. Though 
perhaps we shouldn't have been too 
surprised, after all she is constantly 
swearing and drinking and fighting off 
stage (Just kidding again... well, 
blatantly lying really). 

After the show we spoke to Hattie 
about her act and how often she 
updated it. "bits come and go" she totd 
us. "Some bfls you have for ages if they 
go really well and you like them and 
other bits you put in for a couple of 
weeks then you chuck it out again, it 
all varies. I do bits on the train on the 
way up and bits and pieces at the hotel 
before." Apparently, earlier in her 
career, Hattie would read local news- 
papers in order to tailor the act slightly 
tor wherever she happened to be 
appearing, but more often than not she 
would be the only person in the room 
who had actually read the news item 
in question. Not surprisingly that area 
of research was swiftly abandoned. 
Hattie told us that a segment of 
the routine about sending for porcelain 
collector's items from Sunday supple- 
ments had been completely ad-libbed 
that night and had been added to the 
act as she thought of it. So it was 
interesting to hear this segment 
included again, but In a perfected form, 
when Hattie made a further appear- 
ance in Manchester, at the Buzz Club, 
eleven days later. As before, Hattie was 
the final act on the bill and once again 
she had a tough act to follow. 

I've probably spelt his name wrong, 
which is unfortunate because Rory 
Motion is the funniest guy I've seen in 
a bloody long time. I didn't really care 
too much for the part of his act when 
he got me up on stage to assist him in 
playing the xylophone but apart from 
that he was fantastically good and I 
suggest you look out for him at a venue 
near you. You don't need to be a drug 
taking, sport mad vegetarian to appre- 
ciate n ;S humour but it helps - not that 
I'm suggesting for one moment that I'm 
a vegetarian. 

Eventually introduced as a 'major TV 
celebrity', an embarrassed looking 
Hattie came out on to the Buzz Club 
stage and apologised to any members 
of the audience disappointed that Des 
O'Connor hadn't come on. Although I'd 
heard a lot of the act before, I still 




enjoyed it as much as the rest of (he 
audience obviously did; despite what 
she says about adding bits here and 
there it is obvious that the act is being 
developed all the time and is constantly 
evolving. My enjoyment was also due 
in no small part to Hattie's unique and 
inimitable style. When asked afterwards 
how she developed the deadpan 
approach she explained, "I didn't think 
about it, it's just the way I talk and act." 
It came as a bit of a shock when she 
revealed that she'd once attempted a 
tolly, up-beat, (aster form of delivery. 'At 
the beginning I tried all that, but I 
thought 'no it's not me', so I went back 
to being natural". 

We were curious about what Hattie 
had lined up next on the non-tour and 
she said she would be appearing in 
Cardiff and then doing a private 
business function. Fearing tor Hattie's 
safety, I warned her that these business 
types would have her doing all kinds 
of things for her money - jumping 



naked out of cakes and such like, but 
she claimed she could handle it. We 
wondered how she was booked for 
these various dates, were they done 
through an agent? "Usually," she said, 
"however, sometimes people ring me. 
But to be honest, If they don't sound 
like they know what they're doing I put 
them on to somebody else - if you 
have to spend fifteen minutes asking 
them if there's a stage, it's best if an 
agent does all that." 



HATTIE SIT5 DOWM 



Before making her evening appear- 
ance at the Band on the Wall Hattie 
was kind enough to waste the entire 
afternoon entertaining the members (if 
that doesn't sound too rude) of the 
Manchester Society of Cult Television. 
Also along to conduct the interview 
were two of the Smegazine's finest 
writers. In order to get the right sort of 
Red Dwarf atmosphere Mr Scott look- 




v^-^s^s- 



alike Kev Cryne, who was videoing the 
proceedings, insisted that Hattie sat in 
front of a black background. Despite 
the fact that it meant climbing onto a 
precariously high and uncomfortably 
thin ledge, the amenable actress 
agreed to go along with Kev's direc- 
tions. And, although she nearly tell off 
at the first attempt to get up, Hattie 
cheerfully spent the next ninety 
minutes or so balancing up there 
without a word of complaint. 

In the first part of the discussion she 
had us all in hysterics with hundreds 
of marvellous anecdotes from the world 
of Red Dwarf. Unfortunately, I haven't 
got room for them here, so you'll have 
to read the proper Smegazine interview 
with her coming up in a few months 
time - I'm sorry, but you should have 
been there. Later on things got a little 
strange when the mob were invited to 
ask some questions. Someone who 
was obviously a Star Trek fan had 
noticed certain similarities between 
Star Trek - The Next Generation and 
Red Dwarf and wondered, since ST- 
TNG wasn't on in Britain when RD 
started, if perhaps they'd all flown over 
to the US to steal the ideas. Hattie 
diplomatically claimed that they hadn't, 
but that Rob and Doug were indeed 
fans of Star Trek. (In fact, it was more 
probabfy the other way around.) Asked 
about her own favourite TV 
programmes, Hattie surprised a few 
people by citing the Benny Hill show, 
though she insisted that he wasn't an 
influence The Prisoner was also 
named as a particular childhood 
favourite, which no doubt pleased the 
inevitable Six of Oner in the audience. 
Her dad wasn't as keen, "Loada 
bleedin' rubbish innit? Bleedin' 
bubbles," he would apparently say after 
each and every episode - quite a 
discerning viewer, Mr Hayridge. 

On the subject of the Smegazine, 
Hattie said she was worried about 
people thinking she'd written things 
attributed to Holly, especially if they are 
abusive to readers. And when she 
heard that several suggestive letters 
had been received in the editorial office 
she requested that they be sent on as 
she doesn't usually get any like that. 
She's obviously quite used to fans 
though as she'd brought along a bag 
full of publicity photos which, after the 
interview had concluded, she happily 
signed for the gathered throng. 
Needless to say the bag was a good 
deal lighter when she eventually had 
to leave in order to get to her booking 
on time. 

On behalf of the MSCT I'd like to 
thank Hattie for giving up her time to 
attend the meeting and for being such 
a terrific guest. While I'm thanking 
people I ought to mention MSCT or- 
ganiser Julia Houghton, and although 
I'd very much like to I'm afraid I can't 
possibfy give a free plug to the society's 
next major event, Manopticon 2. 




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